Ep 6: Most Interesting Stories From Home Inspecting and Real Estate

House At Work Home Repair Clinic

In Episode 6 Jim and Peter discuss some of the most interesting stories they have encountered in their careers a home inspector and as a real estate agent.

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Jim Salmon:                      Hello everybody and welcome to the HouseatWork.com Home Repair Clinic podcast. Jim Salmon here.

Peter Schick :                    Peter Schick here.

Jim Salmon:                      How are you today?

Peter Schick :                    You know, I’m doing good. I’m doing good. I can’t complain.

Jim Salmon:                      Weather’s hot, and it’s a good time for home repair. Now, I love it when you send me a little text during the week and you say, “Hey, what about this podcast? Can we…”. Well this is a great idea. Home inspector stories, which come from me, and real estate agent stories, which come from you.

We covered the whole fight between the two, but these are actual examples of great stuff that has happened to me and happened to you over time. Now who wants to start, you?

Peter Schick :                    Well, first thing I wanted to do was some of our listeners had sent us some emails, and so if you recall the wet basement episode, we had a listener, his name’s Joe. He had a question for us. Here it is. It says, “Hello, I usually catch a show on WAM radio, and I just listened to your wet basement podcast. Great stuff. Guess what? I have a wet basement that really needs help. The house is near Salmon River in Polosky. It sits for the most part on top of a hill, but there’s water running through the basement. Most of the year I can actually see a current in the channel. I am installing new gutters and grading, but I am also thinking that I want to install drainage tile so that I am not just diverting the water to a different part of the yard, or worse, I don’t want it to flood my septic tank. My question is how deep should I place the drainage tile? I’m planning on using six inch perforated black polyline. The soil in that area is sandy loom. Should I also backfill the trench with some stone before filling it back in with soil?”

Jim Salmon:                      That’s a tough one because sand allows water penetration quicker and faster than anything else. Clay, not so much. Sand just passes through. It’s like the bottom of an aquarium. The right thing to do is go to the bottom of the foundation. With sand, you’ve got to dig yourself a 12 foot hole out. It’s not like you can just dig a trench, put it in and fill it back up again. The problem is water passes through the sand at a pretty good clip, and if you don’t get all the way down then you’re wasting your time. If you put it down two feet or whatever, you’ll get a little bit from runoff and whatever, but it’s not gonna do the job.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, I agree.

Jim Salmon:                      When you hire a landscaper guy to lay these things out, to use a transit, they figure out where it should go, he’s right. You don’t want it anywhere near your leech field, or your septic area. I see it all the time.

Peter Schick :                    Oh yeah, then you have a host of other issues there.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, and that’s up there. Polosky is up there in the Adirondacks sort of, and there’s all kinds of-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, it’s like Tug Hill area.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, there’s a ton of contractors up there that would do something like this. Now, if he’s doing it himself, my advice to him is to go out and talk to people first. I’m all for do it yourself, all for do it yourself, but-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, but if you’re in over your head, you’re just gonna cause more damage.

Jim Salmon:                      You have to do your homework, and even start with YouTube. There’s tons of videos on how to do this type of thing.

Peter Schick :                    That is always where I go to if I have some issue, if I’m doing a DIY thing. That’s just where I go. Most of the time they’ll be able to answer I’d say 80% of my questions.

Jim Salmon:                      I like the idea that he’s using six inch perforated [inaudible 00:03:28] instead of four inch. Captures a lot more water and if it’s pitched and properly set up, it’s a great way to drive a moisty basement, especially on a hill.

Peter Schick :                    Nice, nice. Okay, great. That answers Joe’s question and then I’ll go to another one. There’s another comment we had from our household pests episode. A listener said, “Jim and Peter, I just listened to your episode five and the part about what to do when you trap an animal. A few years ago I had a problem with chipmunks and bought a half a heart trap which turned out to be very productive. I got rid of a whole colony of them that had built condos underneath my AC compressor. Anyway, when I bought the trap, the young lady at the store mentioned that they had a similar situation there, and they were catching chipmunks on a regular basis. I asked her what they did with them and she answered rather sheepishly they’re not very good swimmers.”

Jim Salmon:                      Yes exactly. I love it.

Peter Schick :                    “I got a chuckle out of her response. A five gallon pail of water does the trick, and you don’t have to take them miles away to release. By the way, our son lives in Massachusetts and he says that if you catch them there, you have to kill them. There’s a significant fine if you get caught doing a catch and release. I guess there’s a concern about spread of disease. I’ve read in the paper about mice and chipmunks being primary carrier of ticks.”

Jim Salmon:                      That’s actually a good idea. Now, in New York state it’s not like that.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, I don’t think so-

Jim Salmon:                      If they catch you with a live thing, you’re taken to a judge. You’re found guilty immediately, the sentence is death to be carried out instantly.

Peter Schick :                    Repossessing your house, yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      It’s against the law in New York State to transport wild animals, but it isn’t against the law to take a chipmunk to heaven, and you take a five gallon, I have one of these things, it works wonderful. I use a six gallon bucket because it gives a little longer weigh and you can get more peanut shells in there. You fill it up about half way, you run a dowel across there with a little ramp, and you sprinkle the peanuts in there, regular unshelled peanuts. They dive in there, boom, done. It’s great. Sometimes it’s a multiple deal.

Peter Schick :                    Okay. I guess that’s really based on the homeowners preference then.

Jim Salmon:                      I mean I’ve seen people harvest them with darts.

Peter Schick :                    Wait, you mean like one of those blow from the Amazon or something-

Jim Salmon:                      No, but that’s a great idea. They’re championship darts. You know, I mean-

Peter Schick :                    Like throwing darts at a bar or something?

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, like at a bar, yeah. You can hone your dart throwing skills by chipmunks.

Peter Schick :                    I’ve got to give it to you. If you could actually get a chipmunk with a dart, and not just wound it but like boom, done, lights out, that takes some skill. That takes some skill. That’s our listener feedback there. Getting back to what we were discussing before. Interesting stories, how do you feel? I could start if you want?

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah go ahead. Fire away.

Peter Schick :                    Okay, so I’ve got to give a little background information on this first. Me and my wife, we live in a three unit home. We live in a triplex, and we live in a two bedroom apartment in that triplex that we own. This was like beginning of 2014, and another background piece is I was in the Marine Corp for 12 years. I did Iraq, Afghanistan, did all that, got out at beginning of 2014, so I had just gotten out of the Marine Corp, we’re living in our three unit in one of the units, and the upstairs apartment becomes vacant, so we’ve got to find somebody else to rent it to.

Typically what I do is I give like a military discount, or a firefighter, police, whoever. I’ll usually take some money off their rent-

Jim Salmon:                      ‘Cause that’s your value. Yeah, absolutely.

Peter Schick :                    Exactly. They’re usually very reliable people, they pay on time, and also they’re just yeah, exactly. I think it’s just a good thing.

Jim Salmon:                      You have a common interest, and a common-

Peter Schick :                    Exactly. I think it’s just the right thing to do. We advertised that on Craigslist, on Zillow, and all the other places where you typically advertise an empty apartment. We have this one couple come through, and he says, “Oh yeah, I’m military. I’m a commander in the Navy, I’m getting stationed here.” And all this, and I’m like oh, okay. He had the swagger of him and he really spoke.

Jim Salmon:                      Clean cut, hair cut and the whole better.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, but the thing was he was a little overweight, but the thing is I’ve seen overweight people in the Navy before, so I’m kind of like well, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not in. It just means whatever, you just stopped caring, or I don’t know, your command is not really enforcing things. I’m kind of like alright, that’s weird, but okay. I’ve seen overweight people even in the Marine Corp, so that’s not like okay, whatever. That just kind of rolls of my back.

Then he also says he’s a pilot too, he was a pilot but then he has glasses on, too. Then I’m like well, you know-

Jim Salmon:                      Not to many military pilots wearing glasses, right?

Peter Schick :                    Maybe he’s a navigator, I don’t know. You know what I mean? As good of sight to be a navigator. But he really, he talks it up, and we usually screen our tenants, and my wife she usually does that part, but for this case she didn’t. I guess she just felt that the compliments-

Jim Salmon:                      Comfortable and whatever. Somebody was standing there, it’s all good.

Peter Schick :                    Exactly. So I guess she got the same vibes I was getting and she didn’t do what we normally do, which is screen everybody to check the credit, references, all of that. We’re like okay, cool let’s do this. Yeah, you can move in here. The other kind of red flag when I looked back on it was he was moving in with his girlfriend who he knew for like two months, which is kind of like wow, things are moving pretty quickly. Two months, that’s pretty quick to be moving in with somebody. Although-

Jim Salmon:                      Well, let’s table that part of it and we’ll analyze that again.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, that’s another piece there.

Jim Salmon:                      All right, now Peter continues.

Peter Schick :                    Yes. He moves in, and so we’re getting, it’s been a few weeks and now the first months rent is due, and so he gives us a check, and so I go and cash the check and it bounces. I’m like okay, there’s something wrong with, there’s something really wrong with this picture.

Jim Salmon:                      Did he sign a lease with you?

Peter Schick :                    Yes, he did.

Jim Salmon:                      Okay, how long was the lease?

Peter Schick :                    One year lease.So I knew there was something wrong here. He said he was a commander in the Navy who had like 30 years, and … Commanders in the Navy don’t bounce checks. The thing is-

Jim Salmon:                      They only do once, then they’re not-

Peter Schick :                    Exactly, that doesn’t happen. Especially if he has a security clearance and all this other stuff. If he has so much debt where a $900 check is causing problems, he’s done-

Jim Salmon:                      There’s a bigger problem.

Peter Schick :                    Exactly, there’s some real issues. Then the next thing was I see him and it was like a Thursday night or something, he’s going out to dinner in his uniform. He puts on his full dress uniform, just after work going out to dinner in his uniform, which is highly unusual. When I was in, it’s like okay when I come home, I’m-

Jim Salmon:                      Gone with the uniform.

Peter Schick :                    I’m just gonna be a normal human being, put on regular civilian attire and do whatever I’m gonna do. But he’s purposely putting this on and then going out. It’s not so much that piece that really did it for me, it was all of his decorations. He just had this massive stack of them and they made no sense. It was like-

Jim Salmon:                      You know what decorations are-

Peter Schick :                    Yes, I know all the medals and everything, this guy would’ve been like a living legend. This guy would’ve-

Jim Salmon:                      Medal of honor, the whole bit.

Peter Schick :                    It was a silver star, and a few other ones, and it was, I would’ve heard about this guy. It was so many where I was, I would’ve heard about him before I would’ve met him kind of deal. At that point I’m like this guy’s bogus. Everything just kind of … It was just so many things, and so then after the rent check bounced, I’m like hey I need to talk with you.

He comes to my apartment and I’m like hey, yeah, I don’t think you’re actually in the Navy and he kind of started getting really dirty eyed and then he gives me, “Well, I’ve got my military ID here.” He gives me a fake military ID. I’m like are you joking me? You know, it’s clearly a fake. I take a picture of it, I’m like here you go. Well, we’re gonna do this, you never gave us any of the documents for your rental application, I want them now.

Then he ended up giving his pay stubs, which are his called the leaving earning statement, and he made that up. It was a fabrication, but it was an incredibly good fabrication. I couldn’t tell that it was a fake one it was so good.

Jim Salmon:                      This is elaborate stuff here.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, this guy obviously spent like six hours spending on this and everything. What really got me was why, who has the time to do that? Why are you going through all these elaborate measures to live out this lie? I thought there was something more to it, so I contacted the authorities, they ended up finding out that he was just, this is something he had been doing for years-

Jim Salmon:                      It’s against the law.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah it is, well the stolen valor thing, it’s only against the law if from what I understand is if you use it for your own personal gain, for like monetary gain, which he kind of did for the with getting the discount, but not really. What they really nailed him on was making the fake IDs.

Jim Salmon:                      So he did get charged with fraud or whatever-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, that’s what he got slammed with because if you went around say in a uniform and you had a bunch of medals and stuff that weren’t yours, if you just walked around town like that, I guess it’s considered free speech, but if you try to use that, say you falsely have this, you won these awards and you try to do it for a monetary benefit, then it falls under stolen valor.

Jim Salmon:                      What do they call it again?

Peter Schick :                    Stolen valor.

Jim Salmon:                      Stolen valor, okay.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah. That’s-

Jim Salmon:                      Wow what a story. What happened, he move right out, or-

Peter Schick :                    He got sent to jail for a while.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, but what happened with the apartment? How long were-

Peter Schick :                    We were like you’ve got to go and he left and then we actually found another couple to move in there and yeah-

Jim Salmon:                      Wow, what a story.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, I couldn’t believe it. The thing that got me was conmen, that’s short for confidence men. It was just he had the confidence, he had the swagger, and he was able to talk the talk, but it was just … He took it too far is what it really was. He tried to say he was more than he really was. It was just too many things piled up that made me really be like okay, this is bogus.

Jim Salmon:                      But if you weren’t military-

Peter Schick :                    I would’ve never known.

Jim Salmon:                      You would’ve never known anything.

Peter Schick :                    The thing that really gets me is why would he … He really put himself in a bad position to where oh, I’m gonna live in the apartment above a guy who just got off active duty. He’s just setting himself up to get … Think about the balls on him to do that. Don’t you think it would, that would be the last place I would want to move if I was trying to live this fake fantasy whatever. I think he was just starting to believe his own lies kind of deal. He’d been doing it I guess for over 20 years.

Jim Salmon:                      Really?

Peter Schick :                    Yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      An older guy, then.

Peter Schick :                    Oh yeah, this guy was in his, he was in his 50s.

Jim Salmon:                      Oh gee yeah, that’s a fossilized-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, he was in his 50s. Yeah, and apparently he had been doing this, he got thrown out of the Navy back in the early ’80s or something, and then I guess his dad was in the military, so he didn’t have the guts to tell his dad, so he just kept his-

Jim Salmon:                      Keep going, next thing you know the lie keeps going-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, it just turns into its own thing.

Jim Salmon:                      What does it say about a woman that lives with a guy like that forever? I mean come on, she had to know that he was a-

Peter Schick :                    Well the girl that was living with him only knew him for a few months. When he finally did get taken away, it was a big surprise to her. The thing was, the really funny thing was that before he ended up getting arrested and everything, he was saying, “Oh I’m gonna be going on deployment soon.” So it’s like wait, if you’re going … Where are you going? You’re not actually in the Navy. If you’re going on deployment meaning you’re gonna go somewhere for seven months, where are you going?

I think what he was probably doing was he was probably scamming the woman that was living with him. He was probably gonna run off with their money and just disappear or something.

Jim Salmon:                      What a nightmare. Well, I’m glad you caught up with him. That’s horrible.

Peter Schick :                    It’s what the heck? I can’t even believe it. I tell that story to people and they’re like, “That happened?” I’m like yeah, that happened.

Jim Salmon:                      That’s a great story.

Peter Schick :                    In my own house.

Jim Salmon:                      Well, it teaches you one lesson, and especially if you’re in the landlord business, you know that everybody’s gotta be screened.

Peter Schick :                    Screen, screen, screen. I cannot emphasize that enough. The one time, the one time we didn’t, we learned our lesson.

Jim Salmon:                      The internet is a wonderful place to check on people. Without a doubt. Any time we hire a new employee at the home inspection office or whatever, my wife usually does all the screening stuff and she’s out on Facebook checking their Facebook page, and their Twitter accounts and all that stuff. It’s great.

Kind of reminds me of a story. As a home inspector, I have a couple of clients that live in California, and they just buy apartment buildings around here, and they buy them by looking online. They buy them looking at the pictures.

Peter Schick :                    I have that a lot. I have a lot of out of state, even out of country investors who invest in Rochester.

Jim Salmon:                      They call me and they say, call the real estate guy and set up an inspection, inspect it for me, send me the report and whatever. I was in this one house in downtown Rochester, and it was a 12 unit apartment building. An old building, there’s a million of them down there. The rents are three to four hundred bucks a month or something like that. It’s not a high end-

Peter Schick :                    It is what it is, yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      But the building was in somewhat of a huge state of disrepair. Let’s put it that way. That’s when landlord folks sell their properties is when they’ve milked the living hell out of them.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, they’ve gotten every little less dollar, they’re not gonna put anything into the maintenance of it, they don’t care. Just give me the rent.

Jim Salmon:                      And that’s when you find these things up for sale, when they need new furnaces, and they need … There’s 12 furnaces, and a new roof and whatever. I met with the guy that owns the building, and he’s a slimly little dude. He’s just whatever, okay, but he’s the one letting me in the apartment. We go in this one apartment, and there’s a woman laying on the living room floor, just living there, and there’s a couple other people sitting around. The guy goes off on the guy that rented the apartment. He was also sitting there, and he goes, “I told you to get that crack whore out of here.” Apparently it was-

Peter Schick :                    Classy joint here.

Jim Salmon:                      Really, so I’m like oh my god I’m stunned, and she’s laying there and I’m looking at her and I go, “Is she okay?” I’m not gonna be in an apartment where somebody’s laying there dead. That’s not gonna happen to me. I’ll go right downstairs and call 911.

So he goes up to her and he starts kicking at her. Then she made some noise and whatever and I said, “I’m not doing this anymore. I’m out of here. This is craziness.”

Peter Schick :                    Done, wash my hands. Yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      It’s like anything else, you run into those types of things that whenever I think that I’m the best that ever lived at what I do and I’ve seen everything, I turn around and something brand new happens to me.

Peter Schick :                    Fate is going to put you back in your place.

Jim Salmon:                      Exactly.

Peter Schick :                    I’ve seen that time and time again in life.

Jim Salmon:                      I’ve had so many weird experiences, especially with animals. I went up a stairway to an attic area, and it was finished off, little knee walls, and my 70 year old lady client is right behind me and there’s a door at the top of the stairs that goes into the knee wall area, and I open it. Out runs this giant silver squirrel out around me, between me and her, back in the whole. Scared the living crap out of me.

Peter Schick :                    It just didn’t know what to do.

Jim Salmon:                      Right. I close the door real quick, and you hear him, he’s running around in there, and then at the end of this thing, there was a hole to the outside, and he right out, jumped on the tree and left, but it goes to show you that the varmints can get in anywhere. I climbed up on a relatively low pitch roof, maybe three and a half, four, twelve pitch on a ranch, and my client insisted on coming up the ladder with me.

I get up there and there’s this big, long chimney. Three feet wide, and eight feet long, massive brick chimney, but only maybe three or four feet above the top of the roof. I got up there and there’s like four flutes in there, and he’s right there, the roof’s covered with antennas, and guy wires, and all this stuff-

Peter Schick :                    Satellite dishes, all yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      The whole nine yards, and I shine my flashlight down into the chimney, and up is coming this mother raccoon about 80 miles an hour.

Peter Schick :                    It’s like hissing at you?

Jim Salmon:                      Remember that movie Alien where those things are crawling-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, where the aliens are crawling through the-

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah they’re coming down the ceiling, that’s what it is.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, he looks open over the ceiling tile, he opens it up and yeah the aliens are coming at him, yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      Well the mother raccoon scared the living crap out of me and I backed up, my client was too close, he fell over, I turned and was running for the ladder and I tripped over a guy wire. It was so funny. But you know, that’s … We run into a lot of animals in some of those.

Peter Schick :                    Oh I believe it, especially when you go into those attics or something else, or basement, yeah you’re gonna run into something.

Jim Salmon:                      People get, I like my own space.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, it’s like arms length. Arms length.

Jim Salmon:                      Some people gotta be right there or whatever, okay fine.

Peter Schick :                    Some people they come into your zone and it’s like hey, hey, hey I’m feeling uncomfortable you know.

Jim Salmon:                      I usually start on the outside of a house and work the outside and then climb the roof, then I head into the garage, and then into the basement. One of the first things I do in the basement is especially if it’s in cold weather is I fire up the furnace. I go into this house, and I fire up the furnace, and I’m down in the basement and it didn’t smell right, and everybody’s down there. The father-in-laws there, there’s five or six people down there and something just didn’t seem right so I get out my carbon monoxide detector, and boom off goes the alarm. 400 parts per million carbon monoxide. I’m screaming, “Everybody out! Out, out, out, out, out!”

I go running upstairs, and it was about 200 parts per million CO on the first floor. It’s a mess. I went outside, got fresh breath, came back in, opened all the windows, the back door, the front door,-

Peter Schick :                    Were people living in this place?

Jim Salmon:                      No, it was a vacant house.

Peter Schick :                    I was about to say, oh that’s-

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, but it only took, that furnace might’ve been running for six or seven minutes before there was that much carbon monoxide. First-

Peter Schick :                    Was it just not venting out, or?

Jim Salmon:                      The vent was completely plugged solid by a bird nest. The other component of it was it was an old furnace from the early ’80s, and those are natural draft furnaces and not a fan induced draft. Once you let them go without cleaning and maintenance, they are burning so dirty that there’s such a production of carbon monoxide.

Peter Schick :                    That just builds up super quickly before you even realize it.

Jim Salmon:                      Right. 400 parts per million, you can wind up very much in the hospital.

Peter Schick :                    Oh wow, good thing you had good spider senses there. That could’ve been bad news. It was just you, or there was somebody else with you?

Jim Salmon:                      It was just me doing the home inspection, but there was a whole bunch of other people that were my clients.

Peter Schick :                    I see, I see.

Jim Salmon:                      It was one of those deals where the realtor opened the door and left.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, they’re like oh yeah, good luck bud.

Jim Salmon:                      He didn’t want to die, so-

Peter Schick :                    He’s like yeah, good luck buddy.

Jim Salmon:                      I’m standing there and I’m thinking okay, what am I gonna do? I’m not going back into this building where there’s any CO to it. I’m in a house frequently where the occupants of the house smoke cigarettes, and I can go in a house like that, turn on my carbon monoxide detector, and there’s 15 to 20 parts per million carbon monoxide just from the cigarettes.

Peter Schick :                    And there was 400 in that basement.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, and it was 200 on the first floor.

Peter Schick :                    That puts it a little more in perspective for somebody who doesn’t necessarily know okay, what’s a part per million kind of deal. I can see now exactly what you’re talking about.

Jim Salmon:                      The table is pretty bad headaches at 200, 300 you’re really sick and diaphoretic. You’re sweating like crazy. At 400 you can lose consciousness.

Peter Schick :                    You could just black out.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah. 5,6,7 you’re in bad trouble. 1,000 you’re dead. You’re dead quick. That’s a tough things that gets in every cell in your body and it really messes you up. That’s why we preach cleaning and maintenance of stuff.

Peter Schick :                    Exactly. So many people think they can get a house or whatever and it’s gonna oh you know, done wash my hands of it. It’s like no, no, no, no. It’s not quite like that. It’s always maintenance and upkeep.

Jim Salmon:                      It’s always the older furnace that runs amuck too, because I remember once I was in a house, my client was 80 years old, nice little old lady. Why she was buying a house at that point instead of assisted living or one of those beautiful senior apartments or whatever was beyond me, but some people are extremely independent.

Peter Schick :                    Maybe she wanted like a one floor, like a ranch or something without the steps.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, and that’s what it was. She was a very feisty, fun, friendly, I could joke around with her, whatever. So I go down in the basement, we’re down there and I’m doing my thing, and water penetration, and plumbing, and whatever. I fire up the furnace, I’ve got to go upstairs, turn the furnace up, and then go back down. I go up, hit the thermostat, turn it up, I go back down, I open the panel to the front of the furnace and the whole thing’s on fire. I mean just flames shooting out like crazy.

She’s standing there and I go, “Ill be right back!” I ran upstairs to turn the thermostat down, and she thought I was leaving her there. So she’s [crosstalk 00:26:24]-

Peter Schick :                    What are you doing Jim?

Jim Salmon:                      She’s halfway back up the stairs, and I go running past her again and I’m down there and I have a fire extinguisher in my truck, and I’m going all over the thing with a fire extinguisher and whatever. It was just so badly out of calibration and had sooted up so bad that the flames rolled out the front, it caught the wiring on fire, what a mess. Absolute mess.

Peter Schick :                    I had another interesting story. I had a lead for a buyer. I got it through Zillow. We advertised on Zillow once and we got this buyer through there, and they’re like, “Oh yeah, we want to view this place.” And it’s on lockbox so it’s pretty easy to, if it’s on lockbox it’s pretty easy to show.

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, anybody can go there.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, anybody could go there so just call up the listing agent. I hadn’t met these people yet, so now we’re meeting them at this house, and it’s me and my wife, we’re there. It was later in the evening, we both went, and so the couple shows up and you could tell they’d been drinking. They’d been day drinking hard.

Jim Salmon:                      I love that when my clients are hammered. I just love it.

Peter Schick :                    Day drinking hard. They’re like, “Hey how’s it going?” Slurring their words, stumbling, oh my god, and so they’re walking through the place, looking around, one of them puts in a cigarette, lights it. I’m like, “Just put it out.” I’m like just meeting these people, I’m like, “What are you doing? What are you doing? Just put it out.”

Jim Salmon:                      You don’t just walk into a house and start smoking.

Peter Schick :                    Just go outside. Just go outside please. That was really interesting. They actually turned out to be, we did a follow up meeting with them, and-

Jim Salmon:                      When they were sober.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, they were so apologetic. They’re like, “Oh my god, I’m so sorry.” Blah, blah, blah, we’re still looking for a place, we’d like for you guys to help us. I’m like-

Jim Salmon:                      That’s great stuff.

Peter Schick :                    All right, sure, yeah, no problem. They turned out to be good clients.

Jim Salmon:                      I’ve had clients show up three sheets to the wind. It’s just, you wonder though if it’s a 9 o’clock in the morning appointment, what are they doing?

Peter Schick :                    Did they just party through the night, or did they just start that morning?

Jim Salmon:                      Yeah, one of the best radio broadcasts my partner John and I ever had was a party where we were out all night and then went right to the studio.

Peter Schick :                    Right there, yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      Don’t remember much of it, but it was a good-

Peter Schick :                    It made for good radio. Yeah, that was interesting, but those were probably the first two that come to mind real estate stories.

Jim Salmon:                      We’ll have to schedule another segment on stories ’cause I’ve got a million more of them and so do you, so-

Peter Schick :                    Yeah, me too. Oh yeah.

Jim Salmon:                      We want to thank everybody for listening to this HouseatWork.com Home Repair Clinic podcast. If you’d like to participate in the program, we would encourage you to write in. We have an email address which Peter’s gonna give you.

Peter Schick :                    Yeah. Just send us any questions to [email protected]

Jim Salmon:                      There you go. We’ll see you next time here on the HouseAtWork.com podcast.

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